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@Garymjh wrote:
This thread has become too irritating and daft to follow.
As far as I know, it is not obligatory for you to do so?
But the root fix is in Sony's hands, where these 562 and still rising pages stand in reluctant testimony to their continuing failure to achieve this 
Not quite, of all the 563 pages most are negative but some are replies of replies and a few are positive. It does seem to be an all and everything thread, which the OP started was 2015 Brava Android TV issues but it looks like everything but the kitchen sink is in here. It's hard to find a particular fault in all this and it's solution. Maybe the thread should close and then people could look down the new thread lists to find what they are looking for.
Just my thoughts.
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@John1950Hitchin wrote:@Garymjh wrote:
This thread has become too irritating and daft to follow.As far as I know, it is not obligatory for you to do so?
But the root fix is in Sony's hands, where these 562 and still rising pages stand in reluctant testimony to their continuing failure to achieve this
Not quite, of all the 563 pages most are negative but some are replies of replies and a few are positive. It does seem to be an all and everything thread, which the OP started was 2015 Brava Android TV issues but it looks like everything but the kitchen sink is in here. It's hard to find a particular fault in all this and it's solution. Maybe the thread should close and then people could look down the new thread lists to find what they are looking for.
Just my thoughts.
Well, given the thread title, there's hardly a post here that is off topic.
As for having threads for individual problems, that would be great, but there aren't a large number of those that can be taken one by one, and of those that there are, even fewer have a solution beyond 'wait for the next software release, and see if that addresses it'.
Quinnicus has a good thread though, where he has tried to list out the individual problems, one per posting, and any solutions or workarounds that have come up.
One problem is fragmentation; apart from 3D versus non-3D and UHD versus HD and Triluminos versus the other thing, there aren't any real distinctions, so all those threads that start with a model number and screen size are just too specific, and what is the exact same problem gets lost in a welter of 55 versus 49, and spec this versus spec that, and so on.
Also, I guess any one of us could live with a couple of beefs about the sets, which we know will get addressed I time.
But it's the sheer cumulation of lots of low level issues, and every update bringing new ones along with the old ones it fixes, that causes this long, long, thread whose common message is 'Should I have bought this set? Can I live with this set? No I shouldn't have bought this set. So how do I unencumbered myself of this set? Here's how to get rid of the set. Gee, I got an XXX instead and now I feel so much better'.*
Looked at like that, and not for tips on this or that glitch, which do belong in other threads, and you can see the logic of it, why it's grown, and how it is actually very focussed,
So I stand firmly behind my view that Sony have brought this on themselves, and the remedy ought to be in their own hands.
*Of course there are the holdouts who only scratch the surface of what the TV is supposed to be able to do by using it as a monitor, effectively, on their Sky boxes, and because even Sony Android can't screw that function up, think it is lovely, as indeed the picture quality is, and therefore DONT UNDERSTAND. Lucky them, is all I can say, apart from 'Why not just buy a monitor, then?'
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