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Video problem with my Xperia 1 II -

mamller6487 — Fri, 26 Jun 2020 19:34:20 GMT

The Videos are pale and milky in the Standard app and the Camera app. The different ProApp styles make it worse. Everything looks perfect in the preview, the result are not usable. The stabilization is very weak.

Tried different ISO and shutter speeds, nothing helps.

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IamNic — Fri, 26 Jun 2020 19:43:32 GMT

Hello @mamller6487,

have you tried turning off HDR in the standard camera app?

- Nic

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mamller6487 — Fri, 26 Jun 2020 20:15:28 GMT

Yes, i do not use HDR. And the "pale" effect is seen in videos created with the standard app and the cinema pro app.

The results of the cinema pro app are more soften. Very bad results.

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RottenFoxBreath — Fri, 26 Jun 2020 20:35:10 GMT

Any way you can take a sample and upload it to youtube, so we can see what you mean exactly, and what settings on the clips you use.

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mamller6487 — Fri, 26 Jun 2020 20:48:48 GMT

OK 😀 tomorrow, when it is daytime, i make new videos and will upload them.

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Gilgameshuk — Fri, 26 Jun 2020 22:15:39 GMT

i HAVE made a video about it

on my channel same thing happens with the mark 1 and its nothing to do with the fault of sony.

If you have recorded in HDR

If you are playing back the video on a monitor tv and you have a pALE CAST OR a slight grey haze, this is not the fault of Sony,rather your monitor/tv is unable to display TEN BIT HDR!

The pale grey haze is actually MISSING COLOUR information that your monitor/tv is unable to display.

I answered this question a while back on my channel

Hope that helps folks

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mamller6487 — Sat, 27 Jun 2020 07:04:14 GMT

Videobeispiel/videoexample

Here my examples.

I do not use HDR in standardapp. In the cameraPro App i have no setting to adjust HDR or not.My monitor is able to show HDR content.

The standardapp shows better results, but not very good.

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Lord_viridis — Sat, 27 Jun 2020 17:09:58 GMT

Video shown in standard app looked natural coloured.

In cinema pro looked a bit less contrast, probably due to HDR being active.

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RottenFoxBreath — Sat, 27 Jun 2020 20:58:59 GMT

Well, I thought the berry tree with Cinema Pro looked fine to me.

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Lord_viridis — Sat, 27 Jun 2020 23:25:46 GMT

I'll be honest, I just don't use the standard video recorder except for when I need a quick video. For all other recording I use cinema pro as I like the flatter 10 bit recording as it goes better in my workflow when splicing with scenes from my drone when that records in D-log or Cine-DNG. it's actually pretty close when using LUTS with the only thing I really need to do is reduce the lut influence on the Xperia 1 (now 1ii) recording.

The standard video shown, is what I'd call natural looking, it doesn't pop like some, but I bet that video when looked at on some devices might pop a little more, but again, that's because the Sony display is tuned for natural colour.

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mamller6487 — Sun, 28 Jun 2020 18:39:00 GMT

If I keep the smartphone i will use the standard app. The camera app is not very usable in my typical use. Always HDR and fix ISO and fix shutter leads to fix eposure and results in over or underexposure when the situation is changing. For example in a forest when filming between trees. It is like a beta software for me. Standard has no 4k60, why Sony?

Thank you for the discussion i see it is my claim and so my fault to have such expectations.

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RottenFoxBreath — Sun, 28 Jun 2020 21:30:30 GMT

There's a reason it's been nicknamed a phone for filmographers/videographers/film-makers, and you have discovered it.

It has one set of tools for quick everyday videos, and another for selecting the best settings and best video.

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mamller6487 — Mon, 29 Jun 2020 09:47:00 GMT

That's an excuse and it doesn't get better if you repeat it. Why should pros do without flexibility?

Compared with the Sony Alpha Series that is compared in advertising, you have to do without a lot.

Bad software doesn't get better by dedicating it to a target group.

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RottenFoxBreath — Mon, 29 Jun 2020 10:43:54 GMT

Why? Have you not seen all the reviewers saying to people that you want a standard smart phone them this might no be the one for you.

They haven't been shy saying it, but basically that seems to be why.

Anyway the 4k video in the standard camera app seems quite decent.

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mamller6487 — Mon, 29 Jun 2020 11:52:55 GMT

I am glad about the photoPro App, why is Sony not able to make the cinemaPro App in a similar quality?

And i would have no issue when i get all the features (4K60 i.e.) in the standardApp.

And for whom is the Xperia 1 II Pro? For the Pro under the Pros? You make me laught.

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RottenFoxBreath — Mon, 29 Jun 2020 14:48:12 GMT

Maybe you just don't get it, and that's ok.

Me personally, It's a great phone, you just need to get to grips with it, but if you aren't into video or photography then move on and buy a samsung.

I mean, you have 2 modes persay, easy and advanced, normal and pro.

And as for the 1 Pro, it's features are similar, but the enhanced 5G enable live streaming/broadcasting in higher definition, with no lag or delay.

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mamller6487 — Mon, 29 Jun 2020 19:26:59 GMT

perhaps i am too stupid. This reminds me of a discussion in a Volvo forum. If you do not like the software it is not the manufactor it is the user

I agree, there are two modes and everything will be ok when i can use the basics like resolution framerate in both of them. These are no "Pro" features.

And can you please explain me what is pro when in a video is not able to fix or unfix brightness? Very unflexible in the camerapro app.

By the way, i have had two S20 Ultra, first i think it had a camera mailfunction but the second had the same problem. I like the Sony more but i am not a fan of the camerapro app. And it has nothing to do with grips when a manufactor is not able to make it usable for the consumer. It has a lot to do with grips and experiance to make nice footages.

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RottenFoxBreath — Mon, 29 Jun 2020 21:28:09 GMT

Ok, so GSM arena have comparison photos, on all 3 applications, and they seem to have managed ok.

As to your S20 issues, the camera is just plain mediocre, they even changed the tv adverts as the "space zoom" wasn't as advertised, and replaced the ad with another more realistic one which zooms in, and shows the guy in the balloon but it's all grainy and quite poor quality.

https://www.gsmarena.com/sony_xperia_1_ii-review-2115p6.php#image0

Also, for videos, and photos, this artist ( Kazushi Momoi), seems to manage just fine too.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hulpGQGtx6Q

And another photographer who seems to appreciate the phone/camera.

Maybe you need to take a step back and start again with its features.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hulpGQGtx6Q

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BBEN66 — Thu, 02 Jul 2020 16:36:55 GMT

@RottenFoxBreath

...sometimes I have the strange feeling special reviewers get special test gear (and the hard paying crowd the mediocre gear).

Now tell me that long - term reviewers (not the Sony one) are dumb and can get the MK2 to work proper with the so called "Photo Pro" and "Cinema Pro" Apps...apps that are so smart designed so you can't see anything with it in sunny weather, the viewfinder also seems to be so smart with it's low resolution, the zoom super - smart, simply push the desired lens, don´t ask for a fluid zoom along all 3 lenses, right?

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Gilgameshuk — Thu, 02 Jul 2020 17:54:31 GMT

Good suggestion, I learned from the Xperia 1 ~(original) never to purchase right from the bat as the software was so buggy.

On the xpieria 1 the video was fine at normal 1080P but turn on HDR MODE (108-0P HDR) it used to stutter and skip[ frames like crazy not to mention that it lost stabilisation.

Here is proof on my channel:

I filmed with the first release firmware and then almost a year later the latest release.... the difference was astounding.

Here are my findings:

As you all know on my small channel I am a true Sony fan (all their products apart from Playstation 'PC Master Race here) but i'm honest enough to find things that can be improved and point them out.