topic Re: USB formatted as internal storage keeps disappearing in Android TV

USB formatted as internal storage keeps disappearing

kinggo01 — Tue, 28 Feb 2017 08:50:47 GMT

So, apart from not being able to write on disk which is not formated as internal, even the one that is formatted as such is unusable becuse it keeps disappering from the system.

And the only way to get it back is restart.

It happend a few times already and it seems that it is related to standby time.

EDIT: So, this happens only in REC port on my 50W75C. Solution is to use any other port.

Re: USB formatted as internal storage keeps disappearing

Anonymous — Sat, 25 Feb 2017 01:09:34 GMT

Hi there

Can you try another USB drive by any chance? This is to rule out a fault with the USB drive itself.

Cheers

Re: USB formatted as internal storage keeps disappearing

kinggo01 — Sat, 25 Feb 2017 09:29:08 GMT

Tried 3 of them already, same thing. The ony currently plugged is almost brand new SanDisk 64GB USB 3.0.

I checked yesterday evenenig before going to bed and disk was there. I turned on the TV now and I can see the name of the disk but that's all. No info on free space and no way to access it from file managers and apps are complaining abou missing SD card.

Re: USB formatted as internal storage keeps disappearing

kinggo01 — Sat, 25 Feb 2017 11:45:16 GMT

I restarted TV at 10:40, disk was there. Turned it off. Now it's 12:42 and the disk is gone.

Re: USB formatted as internal storage keeps disappearing

Anonymous — Sat, 25 Feb 2017 11:48:48 GMT

Hi there

I'll see if I can replicate this on my TV - will get back to you.

Cheers

Re: USB formatted as internal storage keeps disappearing

kinggo01 — Sat, 25 Feb 2017 11:56:42 GMT

meanwhile I'm gonna try port 3.

Re: USB formatted as internal storage keeps disappearing

Anonymous — Sat, 25 Feb 2017 12:59:48 GMT

Hiya

I have connected a Sony 16GB USB drive into USB1 on my TV (KD-55XD8577), and has been formatted for additional storage.

Other than rebooting the TV, do you have any pointers or details for which I can use to replicate this problem, or is it entirely a waiting game in a seemingly randomised fashion?

Cheers

Re: USB formatted as internal storage keeps disappearing

kinggo01 — Sat, 25 Feb 2017 14:45:58 GMT

In port 2 it was just waiting with TV turned off. And I had that a few times so it was more like a rule than something random.

Now I turned it on with disk in port 3 and it seems fine. I'm gonna try again in port 2 and 1. This must be reliable because it easily breaks everything.

I don't know if you missed it, but can you also check this https://community.sony.hr/t5/android-tv/writing-on-usb-disks-impossible-on-marshmallow/td-p/2297578

edit: and while we are at this, trying to grant permanent USB access to any of the file managers usually breaks things so disks become unavailable.

Re: USB formatted as internal storage keeps disappearing

Kuschelmonschter — Sat, 25 Feb 2017 15:40:11 GMT

and while we are at this, trying to grant permanent USB access to any of the file managers usually breaks things so disks become unavailable.

I can confirm that.

I also tried to use an USB 3.0 32GB ADATA pen drive as adoptable storage but it failed migrating data to it. It pretended to move data for hours until I manually stopped the process. Everything was still 0Byte. So nothing got moved.

Thanks to @kinggo01 and some other guys in the Kodi forums I now figured out how to use non-adoptable storage for timeshifting in Kodi.

Re: USB formatted as internal storage keeps disappearing

kinggo01 — Sat, 25 Feb 2017 16:37:09 GMT

@Kuschelmonschter

but the funny thing is that they actually have access already. If we ignore that grant asking popup everything works just fine.

Re: USB formatted as internal storage keeps disappearing

Kuschelmonschter — Sat, 25 Feb 2017 16:56:56 GMT

@kinggo01,

why do you need to write so much data? What are your use-cases?

Re: USB formatted as internal storage keeps disappearing

kinggo01 — Sat, 25 Feb 2017 17:16:02 GMT

I don't need to write so much. Actually I can live with those 8GB just fine. But TV was advertised with expandable storage and now when it's finally here it doesn't work reliably. I formated another stick so now I have two of them in ports 2 and 3. The other one is empy, I didn't migrate anything there but will see if it will be visible in morning.

As writing in general, anywhere on the disk, that I DO need very much.

Re: USB formatted as internal storage keeps disappearing

Kuschelmonschter — Sat, 25 Feb 2017 18:12:02 GMT

As writing in general, anywhere on the disk, that I DO need very much.

May I ask what you are writing? Maybe some examples?

Re: USB formatted as internal storage keeps disappearing

kinggo01 — Sat, 25 Feb 2017 18:27:59 GMT

Well, Kodi can't write outside of its own folder. So subtitles go to .temp and the only way for me to move them is to transfer them to my NAS and then later on to the right folder when the disk is plugged into my PC.

Also, without writing there's no way to delete anything. My TV is a lot less smart ATM.

Re: USB formatted as internal storage keeps disappearing

kinggo01 — Sun, 26 Feb 2017 08:00:07 GMT

And this morning both of them were gone.

Re: USB formatted as internal storage keeps disappearing

Kuschelmonschter — Sun, 26 Feb 2017 08:20:20 GMT

I am only using removable storage. Haven't lost it so far.

Re: USB formatted as internal storage keeps disappearing

kinggo01 — Sun, 26 Feb 2017 08:45:42 GMT

Yeah, removable is fine. As long as you don't try to grant USB access in file manager and that it's not writable. But formatted as internal is 100% broken.

Re: USB formatted as internal storage keeps disappearing

kinggo01 — Sun, 26 Feb 2017 10:25:35 GMT

And 3 hours later, again.

Re: USB formatted as internal storage keeps disappearing

Jecht_Sin — Sun, 26 Feb 2017 10:39:28 GMT

I have just asked about this in the italian forum. Are you guys talking about the "extendable" internal memory via SD card, as described as "Internal Mode" in this reddit posrt: https://www.reddit.com/r/Android/comments/3oz7eu/guidelines_for_marshmallow_users_formatting/ ?

Because I wanted to buy a fast 128GB USB 3.0 key (this one, which has got good technical reviews: Patriot Memory PEF128GSR2USB Supersonic Rage 2)

and use it to expand the Internal memory, either for installing more apps (games and stuff) but also for movies and other stuff. Is that broken as well (like the option to write in the normal external SD card to be clear)?

Also, what about Kodi? Does it absolutely require an external SD card? Or can it write data in the internal /sdcard instead? I didn't have many oppurtunities to test, because whatever I tried was broken (even my 64GB SD card, that decided to go banana after taking it out of my old mobile phone).

Re: USB formatted as internal storage keeps disappearing

Kuschelmonschter — Sun, 26 Feb 2017 10:53:52 GMT

Ah, I thought removable storage was also disappearing for you.

I will also try to adopt storage and see whether same happens. I also had the feeling that it is quite flaky.